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I’m taking it a little easy today.* Also my computer(s) are having one of their round robin Round Robins, passing a piece of rogue formatting around (via the memory stick: I have three computers I use all the time and two more, uh, spare including the going application common to them all**) and giggling. So, (+&^$$@))%£”, etc.
            For those of you out there who don’t read comments, I’ve thought about trying to cut and paste some of the febrile activity on the political thread, but condensing is not my best trick and if I just cut and paste without doing a little editing first lj will probably nest my entry, which will make everyone else’s formats go rogue too. But anyone who’s interested in a not-too-demanding*** conversation about the Democratic nomination gladiatorial contest, I recommend you break the habit of a lifetime and go read the comments. What I may try and do, if I’m feeling brave, is cut and paste a few of the recommended . . . SCARY PHRASE WARNING . . . political commentary sites. Someone remarked that even four years ago there wasn’t anything like this much activity on the web, let alone eight years ago, and that it really is a whole new political game. Yes. Just spending an hour or two† following my nose through and on out from these sites is pretty astonishing.
            The other thing is that I didn’t want the Scrotum Kerfuffle to get buried in the posts about politics and friendship.†† This absolutely is something that should get as much publicity as possible.  With the exception of the occasional (usually young) one who hasn’t thought it through††† I don’t hold out much hope of convincing any of the prigs and morons that they’ve, ahem, lost the plot, but the rest of us should make it as hard for them as possible to screw things up for the rest of us. Knowledge is power, right?
            Earlier today I was telling a with-it publishing friend‡ who wears power suits and has a good haircut that someone had sent me a link about this and I was going to post it here tonight, and she made rude noises and said, oh, that’s such old news. That was last year’s Newbery. And I made rude noises right back and said, Some of us live in cupboards and old vegetable bins, or at the bottoms of gardens with the fairies, aren’t glued to our wireless laptops and don’t get PUBLISHERS WEEKLY by email, and don’t know these things. 
            To my mind it’s important that we’re aware that this kind of rubbish is still going on, and to make our small gestures toward putting it in a trash bin where it belongs. Probably the kerfuffle only raised her sales and she’s going ‘mwa ha ha ha ha’ all the way to the bank, but I’ll probably buy a copy anyway. Checking it out of the library is also good. All Peter’s grandchildren have got too old but I can probably find a kid somewhere to force it on. Which is also to say that I doubt there’s been an enormous evolutionary change since this time last year leading to the exemplary result that we don’t have to worry about idiot censorship any more‡‡. And as for its status as old news, I also remember that being identified as a Limb of Satan lasted some years after my THE HERO AND THE CROWN won the Newbery twenty-something years ago . . . and for that matter I still get mail, occasionally, from people who want to tell me I’m a Limb of Satan, either for writing fantasy at all, which is lies, or by having my heroine sleep with one guy and marry another one thus destroying the moral fibre of any child whose parents or teachers don’t snatch the book away in time, and the credibility of the Newbery forever. 
            So read and snarl. The set up, by the way, appears to be the heroine overhears someone telling someone else that a rattlesnake bit his dog on the scrotum.‡‡‡ Oh, and also please forgive the late-at-night phrasing of my reply.
            PS: I know. Let’s start a wicked rumour. Harry Potter has a scrotum.
           
           
 
 
 
I'm sure you heard about the great scrotum kerfuffle over last year's Newbery winner?

N.B.: The school librarians in that article who removed the book from their shelves have been correctly identified by Neil Gaiman as "rogue librarians who have gone over to the dark side."
 
 
 
 
OH GODS. No, I didn't know anything ABOUT this. **What third or fourth grade child has NOT SEEN A MALE DOG?** The rest effing FOLLOWS. Kids are INTERESTED in genitals, not least because they're taught, well, not to touch them in public, for example, theirs or anyone else's. And what are little boys taught to call theirs? What's wrong with scrotum? If I'd been reading this book it would have gone right past me. I wasn't surprised when everybody got in a hooha over the dick in NIGHT KITCHEN but **THIS**?!? Also this is what, thirty years later or something? Didn't NIGHT KITCHEN get us a little *farther*? But I think: “Scrotum sounded to Lucky like something green that comes up when you have the flu and cough too much,” the book continues. “It sounded medical and secret, but also important.” is completely brilliant. I laughed out loud and it makes me want to read the book. And it would never OCCUR to me not to give it to a kid. I'm completely with Gaiman on this one.

 
 
 
 
 
 
*Note: never answer a comment asking after your health ‘I’m much better thanks, I seem to have got off easily’. It makes an alarm bell go off in ME Headquarters and the bored guard snaps to attention and runs to the Instruments of Torture locker, shouting, “Finally! Now, if only I can find that new-design head clamp!”
 
** I don’t think you Americans talk about going spare. Think about how a computer having the whimsies makes you feel: that’s going spare.
 
*** One or two posters are trying to raise the level. I’m resisting.
 
† Help! Help! I’ve just lost another hour or two!
 
†† And yes, all these fascinating new political web sites make me wish that much more strongly that the friend from yesterday’s post were reading them too.
 
††† Over the years I’ve had several really interesting conversations with people who have written initially to pound me about something. Sometimes you can tell by their initial tone if it’s worth trying. I didn’t bother with Ungay Mom for example.  And unfortunately these conversations are rare.
 
‡ Yes, I do have a few. Cool friends I mean. Well, I have this one.
 
‡‡ The last news bulletin I had^ on our infiltration of the Dark Side is that the covert brain-seed initiative was not a success
 
^ But then I do live at the bottom of the garden with the fairies. Except when it’s raining, and then I prefer the vegetable bin.
 
‡‡‡ And what about the poor dog?

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alalicorne From: alalicorne Date: January 18th, 2008 12:55 am (UTC) (Link)
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this made me laugh. thank you.

ALSO:
*Note: never answer a comment asking after your health ‘I’m much better thanks, I seem to have got off easily’. It makes an alarm bell go off in ME Headquarters and the bored guard snaps to attention and runs to the Instruments of Torture locker, shouting, “Finally! Now, if only I can find that new-design head clamp!”

--oh no?! are you worse again!?! all my fault, for asking after your health in the first place (*hangs head in shame*)

p.s. (whisper whisper whisper) [*spreads rumour*... between giggling bouts, that is]
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 01:05 am (UTC) (Link)
all my fault,

************* YES. IT'S ***ALLLLLL*** YOUR FAULT.

So you'd better spread the rumour really well, as expiation. :)
fatfred From: fatfred Date: January 18th, 2008 01:02 am (UTC) (Link)
Yea scrotums!

(please see Icon...)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 01:07 am (UTC) (Link)
(please see Icon...)

*********** YOU ARE A VERY SICK PERSON. :)
bunnyjadwiga From: bunnyjadwiga Date: January 18th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC) (Link)

Where authors hide out

"But then I do live at the bottom of the garden with the fairies. Except when it’s raining, and then I prefer the vegetable bin."

I keep hoping that one day I'll open an airing-cupboard and have the late Tove Janson blinking at me. Then again, I might find a nest of Bagthorpes.

(I hope you don't mind silly author jokes... I thought it might buck you up. I'm having tonsilitis myself, so you have all my sympathy.)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 09:26 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Where authors hide out

a nest of Bagthorpes.

********* And Zero! Especially Zero!
handyhunter From: handyhunter Date: January 18th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
she made rude noises and said, oh, that’s such old news. That was last year’s Newbery. And I made rude noises right back and said, Some of us live in cupboards and old vegetable bins, or at the bottoms of gardens with the fairies, aren’t glued to our wireless laptops and don’t get PUBLISHERS WEEKLY by email, and don’t know these things.

Heh. The beauty* of the internets. (that old news can cause a blip on someone's computer screen and then get rediscussed. It's great for fandoms, especially as new people find older books/shows/etc to become obsessed about.)

*and bane, too, very likely
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 09:38 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm going to POST this to her. (She doesn't read comments.)
snowy_owlet From: snowy_owlet Date: January 18th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC) (Link)
You are clearly a Limb of Satan, for three distinct reasons:

1. You wrote a book filled with delicious baked goods but NARY A RECIPE.

2. You described delicious porridge-based griddle cakes (The Blue Sword>) that are UNOBTAINABLE.

3. You invented delightful, pretty lovely tassels and such lying neatly on the top of one's foot with only the need of a hitch-step, not noting that walking that way is IMPOSSIBLE for the hopelessly clumsy.

So my life is a misery of incompleteness. I suffer.

(And I re-read The Blue Sword every time I'm sick or sad.)

Edited at 2008-01-18 02:00 am (UTC)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 09:44 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, I'm scrambling (slowly, but I feel a recipe-post coming on now) to soften the effect of the first one.

And I can do porridge-based griddle cakes too (although the truth is I'm failing to remember them in SWORD).

On the contrary, it is VERY CLEAR that the third one is difficult for the hopelessly clumsy.

(And I re-read The Blue Sword every time I'm sick or sad.)

*********** Self torture, eh? How very homeopathic. (Homeopathic = like is cured by like. Potentised spanish fly for burns, for example.)
jmeadows From: jmeadows Date: January 18th, 2008 02:03 am (UTC) (Link)
You are a posting maniac today! Four posts! Can the world handle this much McKinley? ;)

I remember the scrotum hubbub! (*I* don't keep up with stuff, but my reading list does. They're my source for interesting news.) One of my friends had a scrotum poem contest. It was...well, let me find you the entry. Clicky link with entries. Clicky link with winners. Look at your own risk!
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:07 am (UTC) (Link)
**Phallusy**! Yessssssssssss!

I'm DELIGHTED to see whole um, CAVALRIES of people galloping to the rescue of the humble scrotum!

Although, JUST BY THE WAY, it would be NICE if these people SPELLED NEWBERY CORRECTLY. [my inner evil hag emerges, but *really* . . . ]
ej_smiles From: ej_smiles Date: January 18th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC) (Link)
The last news bulletin I had^ on our infiltration of the Dark Side is that the covert brain-seed initiative was not a success

Ooo, now you tell me! I've been feeding books to every kid I know for years thinking there'd eventually be some success.

and for that matter I still get mail, occasionally, from people who want to tell me I’m a Limb of Satan, either for writing fantasy at all, which is lies, or by having my heroine sleep with one guy and marry another one thus destroying the moral fibre of any child whose parents or teachers don’t snatch the book away in time

Ok, so granted I was never the most worldly of children, living most of the time in the fairytale or fantasy I was reading, but the sheer romance of that book had me hooked! After all, Aerin was more than mortal and was bound by everything that had happened up till then to have more than one lifetime, so why shouldn't she have a love to return to after her mortal love died?

And since all your books and Peter's are on my son's bookcase (and he's not even born yet) you can be assured you'll be corrupting another generation. I hope he enjoys every word as much as I did (and still do!).
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Thank you! (Get 'em in the womb--that's the ticket!) :)
blackbear88 From: blackbear88 Date: January 18th, 2008 02:15 am (UTC) (Link)
being identified as a Limb of Satan

Do they specify which limb?

When I worked in the game store, the first year Harry Potter was Hot Stuff we had a display of HP calendars, boardgames, etc. on our floor. Two ladies who seemed otherwise normal came in and were browsing around the store, and suddenly one of them said very loudly, "Ethel, are you FOR Harry Potter?" Um--what?... think I to myself. "Are you FOR him, or AGAINST him? Because I'm AGAINST him." WTF?? Like Harry was running for office or something. Hello folks, they call it "fiction," because it's Fictional! Get an effing grip.

(Of course, around that time we also had a lady come in and pick up one of the tiny stuffed dogs we were selling back in the late 90's and announce to no one in particular, "I just don't like these here CHEE-HOOAH-HOOAHs." Um, ma'am? That's pronounced "chihuahuas." And I bet they don't like you either. :) Such are the joys of living in the American Midwest.)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Two ladies who seemed otherwise normal came in and were browsing around the store, and suddenly one of them said very loudly, "Ethel, are you FOR Harry Potter?" Um--what?... think I to myself. "Are you FOR him, or AGAINST him? Because I'm AGAINST him." WTF?? Like Harry was running for office or something. Hello folks, they call it "fiction," because it's Fictional! Get an effing grip.

************ LOL!! Imagine what the subsequent years and volumes have done to their peace of mind!!!
anne_d From: anne_d Date: January 18th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, yes, the Great Scrotum Kerfluffle (wonderful title, by the way). It was quite a giggle. It makes me wish I had someone young enough to appreciate being given the book, but alas, mine are too mature for such things.

I guess I missed the Limb of Satan thing. I read the book as an adult and loved it - I thought that the two men were part of the two aspects of her character (I'm not explaining this well), and it was lovely and romantic and mythic.

I also remember the flap over In the Night Kitchen. That Sendak, such a trouble-maker... We have a copy someplace, and I don't think it bothered either daughter at all. Of course, my older one got ahold of Our Bodies Our Selves (it was in our reference library about the time she hit puberty, and read her way through it. She's always been of an enquiring mind.

Good luck with your computers - we only have one, and it's a constant source of stress and woe to me. I'm the so-called expert in the family (as taught by our repairman), so every time something out of the ordinary happens, I freak.

I love your footnotes.

robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Thank you!

(Our repair man TRIES to teach me computery things, but . . . )
doushkasmum From: doushkasmum Date: January 18th, 2008 03:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Children's books

When I was a children's librarian* some parents wanted me to take "The story of a little mole who knew it was none of his business"** out of the picture book collection. I went along so far as not to read it at story time, but it stayed in the collection, and was usually out on loan. Its a great book, but I wonder how many US libraries it is in?

*About 10 years ago, in Australia.

**If you don't know the book it is all about a mole out to discover who pooped on his head. He goes around asking all the animals "Is this yours?" and they say "No, mine looks like this!"
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:16 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Children's books

LOL! No, I DIDN'T know. And I would have said it WAS his business!!!!!
From: tigtogtiffy Date: January 18th, 2008 05:00 am (UTC) (Link)
"and for that matter I still get mail, occasionally, from people who want to tell me I’m a Limb of Satan, either for writing fantasy at all, which is lies, or by having my heroine sleep with one guy and marry another one thus destroying the moral fibre of any child whose parents or teachers don’t snatch the book away in time, and the credibility of the Newbery forever. "

People never cease to amaze me. I do not think that you have destroyed my moral fiber, but then again I might be wrong. But all that is to say, I myself cannot understand why the use of the word scrotum causes such an uproar. By the age of the intended audience for the book children children should most certainly be aware of the existence of such things as scrotums. Breast feeding is something that is discusses in public, and I don't see an uproar about the use of that phrase. It is much better than inventing gibberish phrases to talk about genitalia. Hiding things and covering them up with cute descriptives and things does nothing for anyone except perhaps the sensibilities of the same people who think you are the corrupter of youth and all around evil doer.
silksieve From: silksieve Date: January 18th, 2008 05:12 am (UTC) (Link)
"Let’s start a wicked rumour. Harry Potter has a scrotum."

Ya know, I always knew there was something strange about that kid.


(Also, I now have spit all over my laptop.)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:17 am (UTC) (Link)
(Also, I now have spit all over my laptop.)

*********** It's much better if you were drinking tea or coffee at the time. :)
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 18th, 2008 05:19 am (UTC) (Link)

political blogs

I almost feel guilty for posting this, for fear that you will be sucked into the world of political blogs, leaving you less time for the things that you always say you have no time for. But, if you're looking for a low-key bit of political commentary from a feminist perspective, you can't do better than Echidne of the Snakes (http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com). There are two people who post there, Echidne and olvlzl; generally you can skip olvlzl's posts, as he's a rather longwinded and wandery writer, but Echidne posts more often and she's one of the best there is.

Also, a while back she posted about comfort reads and I pushed your books pretty heavily, so I kind of feel like I ought to sort of balance it, by pushing her blog. So. Maybe you'd like it.

~Tayi (http://www.waiting-for-rain.blogspot.com)
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:35 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: political blogs

I dunno. One of the reasons I live in a vegetable bin is because I depress kind of easily and when I get depressed I can't function. I'm fully (I hope) committed to Doing What You Can but my list of what I'm capable of tends to be writing comfort books and contributing to charities who are out there on the front lines where I can't face it. Fifteen minutes reading Echidne and I'm reading to hang it up. Good luck to *you*, by the way . . . and I hope you're OFF the damned Prozac because that stuff will fry your gizzard. Have you investigated alternative stuff at all? I know, I know, but I can't help pushing homeopathy; I know it works. Not for everybody, not all the time, not for everything. But it's well worth investigating. As are some of the other alternatives. Bowen method massage for example is one of the things that first started getting me up off the sofa occasionally after the ME laid me out.
auriaephiala From: auriaephiala Date: January 18th, 2008 08:18 am (UTC) (Link)
I always thought "scrotum" was the polite euphemism for "balls". But I guess it's not euphemistic enough for this librarian.

I really wonder if she's ever played with or had a (male) dog -- of course it's obvious the dog has a scrotum, every time it turns over. It's part of the dog -- and not any "dirtier" than any other part of it.

What a bizarre, covering-the-piano-legs attitude -- and so atypical of all the librarians I know. I will start recommending the book (not that that's likely to be much of a chore).
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 18th, 2008 09:11 am (UTC) (Link)
I had not heard the details of the scrotum kerfuffle--my goodness, this goes so far beyond stupid that words fail. It's a funny story, but troubling in its implications. When I was a kid in the fifties in a SMALL Massachusetts town, I was frequently barred by the librarian from taking out books that she thought were "too old for you," so I still tend to get offended when age-appropriate policing rears its ugly head.

My parents had a neighbor 30 years or so ago whose 3-year-old daughter rather startled some adults by referring to her baby brother's penis. The little girl had seen her brother having his diaper changed, and was curious; her mother, a nurse, preferred not to use baby talk. The scrotum-censors would probably still be shocked by this.

Fortunately, not all librarians are made in the Mrs. Grundy mold. Nancy Perle, who wrote Book Lust, was doing a call-in on kids' books on MN public radio, and suggested Sunshine to a caller for his 13-year-old daughter who liked stuff about vampires. Brava Nancy!

I once had a lovely tee-shirt with the slogan "There's something in my library to offend everyone" plastered across it. It wore out, unfortunately. I should get another made.

Diane in MN
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)
It's a funny story, but troubling in its implications.

************ Yes.


Fortunately, not all librarians are made in the Mrs. Grundy mold. Nancy Perle, who wrote Book Lust, was doing a call-in on kids' books on MN public radio, and suggested Sunshine to a caller for his 13-year-old daughter who liked stuff about vampires. Brava Nancy!

*********** Zowie. And here's the author saying 13 is too young. Well, 13 is too young for *some* kids. Maybe Perle recognised some of the other stuff the dad mentioned. *I* don't read most vampire stuff because it's too gruesome. This is why I *am* still a bit protective of my younger readers--because I'm a thin skinned softie myself, and while when I make mistakes it doesn't (well, rarely) give me nightmares any more it used to, and thin skinned softies are still being born.

However, all mentions are good mentions! Yay publicity! :)

I once had a lovely tee-shirt with the slogan "There's something in my library to offend everyone" plastered across it. It wore out, unfortunately. I should get another made.

************** Oh gosh, yes. Me too.
snakey From: snakey Date: January 18th, 2008 10:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who worried about that poor bitten (fictional) dog. (I told Hellhound he'd better be good....his look retorted that he no longer HAS such a thing thanks to us, and WHY are we away from home anyway, and WHERE is head-of-the-pack (Raven's in the States and I'm at my mother's) and most importantly, WHEN is it going to STOP RAINING? *sigh*)

You did make me spew my tea with the Harry Potter rumour, incidentally. *plans to spread it like crazy*
robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 18th, 2008 10:52 am (UTC) (Link)
WHEN is it going to STOP RAINING? *sigh*)

************* Oh, gods, **yes.** I'm having a bad morning of I Can't Stand This Wet Stuff Any More. Not to mention watching slowly increasing restlessness from the hellhound corner as they gear up for the walk THEY KNOW MUST BE COMING. Yes. No escape.

You did make me spew my tea with the Harry Potter rumour, incidentally. *plans to spread it like crazy*

*************** EXCELLENT. :)
agathasilver From: agathasilver Date: January 18th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
I find it very funny. Children can be taught "baby" names for genitalia but the medical/scientific terms are verboten. Very short story in illustration: My son, at age 2 and a half, was being potty trained at preschool. While standing up to urinate one of the teachers one of his teachers referred to his genitalia as his "wee-wee". She was shocked when my son turned to her solemnly and pronounced, "This is not my 'wee-wee'. This is my penis." I howled with laughter when she told it to me at the end of the day. As a health care professional I never taught him to use "baby" names.

"Baby" names are uttered with giggles and blushes, like "dirty words". I applaud the "Scrotum" author. Good show!
eversearching From: eversearching Date: January 18th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh my, the scrotum thing is hard for me to wrap my mind around.

I guess I need to chalk this up to my (relative) youth and having uber liberal parents, but it's always been hard for me to understand using coded language to discuss genitalia. We grew up using all the medical terms (penis, vagina, scrotum), and when my shocked aunts would protest, my mom would say, irritatedly "well, you don't give dumb nicknames to the elbow do you? it's just skin!" (my mom is a nurse with low tolerance for what she sees as foolishness)

And ignoring the existence of genitalia also baffles me. Because it's *there*. And exists, regardless of what we do or don't call it.

I teach a "sex ed" class to k-2 graders- which sounds a lot more shocking than it really is, I promise- and we are very clinical with our language. Kids are really interested in their own bodies, because,you know, at that age, you are interested in everything in the world, and hopefully you haven't got all these hang ups and shame about your body, so we try to reinforce that bodies are really neat things that you need to take care of so they can serve you well and you can live a full life in them.

As far as being the Limb of Satan, I ahve to admit to using your Blue Sword to illustrate that humans are complex enough to love people in different ways from different parts of their beings. So I am sorry if I've contributed to your Limb of Satan nature. (If it helps, this was in high school, in a dicussion to a person who later sent out an email to everyone he and I knew in common, saying he was convinced that I had the "spirit of the antichrist" in me, and asking people to pray that God would intervene to save me. Our teachers, my parents, our minister all got this email- at the time I was shocked and humiliated, but looking back it makes a good story, I think?)

I'm also in the same boat as a poster above- when I'm sick, or despairing, I read the Blue Sword. For all sorts of reasons, it's one of the most inspiring, comforting books in the world to me- it always rouses me!

robinmckinley From: robinmckinley Date: January 19th, 2008 01:36 am (UTC) (Link)
As far as being the Limb of Satan, I ahve to admit to using your Blue Sword to illustrate that humans are complex enough to love people in different ways from different parts of their beings.

************ Hmm? It's Aerin in HERO who has the two lovers. Harry plays it fairly straight in SWORD although it's true she sleeps with him before she marries him.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 19th, 2008 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)
*****The school librarians in that article who removed the book from their shelves have been correctly identified by Neil Gaiman as "rogue librarians who have gone over to the dark side."*****

That's apt. Any librarians I've ever met have frequently been wearing tee shirts with various messages advocating "Read a banned book this week" or something similar.

What would those who disapproved of the book have had the kids call that particular body part instead of a scrotum? That IS the approved medical term, for heaven's sake.

I read somewhere, can't remember where, about some woman down south whose friend was appalled by seeing the word "vagina" in public in an advertisement for "The Vagina Monologues". Apparently she thought the appropriate word should be "hoohah". Hmmm. Brings a whole new meaning everytime I see someone use the word "hoohah" innocently....

Judith
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